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    Gluing Large Diameter (3"+) Plastic Pipe

    Do any of you use hand tools (other than saw) when gluing larger diameter PVC/ABS pipe?

    Do joints ever start setting up in the wrong position and you have to make a last minute tweak? If so how do you get it to move?

    When gluing plastic in tight quarters do you run into situations where you cant get a good grip on the pipe? How do you solve the problem?

    When doing trench work, do you always have a helper to glue in large sticks of plastic pipe? If no how do you make sure they seat?

    Thanks, Josh
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    Last edited by Josh; 08-20-2014, 12:09 PM.
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    Sounds like you're working on a solution. Some kind of non maring wrench to give you a grip and leverage.

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      May not be what you are expecting but I may be up to something ;-)
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    what I have found is to use plenty of glue, helps in most of those instances, if you skimp on the glue it will grab quickly, and sliding the pipe in the fitting seems to be troublesome . if there is plenty of glue on the pipe it slips in like it is all most oiled, I will put glue in the fitting and on the pipe. not a lot to have a excess pushed off into the joint but it keeps good film of glue to keep lubricated when assembling. with out that film it dries out and glues the pipe before one some times can get pushed together and aligned,

    If you have some thing set up before your ready, unless you have a wrench or some thing there instantly I do not know if you will twist or turn or back it out. If it is not sealed up tight one my have to cut it out and try again,

    dry fit it first, mark the proper alignment of all fittings and joints. some times building a sub assembly is good, and then putting that sub assembly in as unit helps,

    good luck on your project,

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      • #5
        Originally posted by Josh View Post
        Do any of you use hand tools (other than saw) when gluing larger diameter PVC/ABS pipe? Not really. Most joints edges should be chamfered or beveled to get them to the bottom of the socket with glue spread and no "plowing". But I have never seen anyone do it in DWV. Ever. Their percentage of joint failure/problem vs. chamfering doesn't justify it regardless of what engineering may say.

        Do joints ever start setting up in the wrong position and you have to make a last minute tweak? If so how do you get it to move? Talking about "large diameter pipe"? No. There is no last minute tweak. Maybe a last second tweak. 6" and above is set pretty quick.

        When gluing plastic in tight quarters do you run into situations where you cant get a good grip on the pipe? How do you solve the problem? I can't say that I do really. Usually can get adequate grip with bare hands, rubber gloves, or a wrench of some sort for the task.

        When doing trench work, do you always have a helper to glue in large sticks of plastic pipe? If no how do you make sure they seat? Most of the time, yes. If alone, set up level to each other, primer, glue, run, push or bump with hammer, twist, hold. Then wonder if it's too late for more education.

        Thanks, Josh
        Good luck with your project.

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          Hand tools are : Different applicator looks like a paint roller the depth of the socket
          36" pry bar for a little turn or a quick twist off
          grinder for chamfer and ream
          level
          chain grip with an extension
          rags
          joints setting up: 36" pry bar
          the right amount of glue (its an experience thing)

          tight situations : chain grip with the extension

          trench work and help: depth mark and the right amount of glue
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            Originally posted by Josh View Post
            Do any of you use hand tools (other than saw) when gluing larger diameter PVC/ABS pipe?

            Do joints ever start setting up in the wrong position and you have to make a last minute tweak? If so how do you get it to move?

            When gluing plastic in tight quarters do you run into situations where you cant get a good grip on the pipe? How do you solve the problem?

            When doing trench work, do you always have a helper to glue in large sticks of plastic pipe? If no how do you make sure they seat?

            Thanks, Josh


            Big enough pipe can be pushed together with a bar (rock bar as we call it)

            Last second tweaks can be done with a dry fitted pipe in the side to assist with rotation or pop it out and reassemble.

            Again a rock bar.

            I brush primer on as deep as the hub or slightly more. Excessive exposed primer tells the tale.

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              Josh send it down and we will give it a run for you. Happy to show you how we treat the RIDGID showcase of tools. Don't hang us out for 12mths whilst you spoil the guys. Think about the poor cousins down here.............!!!!

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              4 inch and down is not very difficult to do by yourself with no tools. We generally see gasket pipe (under ground) when its bigger than 4 inch. But a tool maybe useful when we do large diameter pvc pressure pipe

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                We already have a series of pipe tools available although I am yet to see anyone with them on site. With big water mains we have RRJ which needs lots of special grease. Ductile pipe, what an a1 ***** this can be. Don't always have an excavator bucket handy. Big glued joints, glue starts to set by the time you get it lined up and shove. Then, as said earlier, wants to come straight back out. C'mon Josh, stop teasing

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                  All I can do is tease at this point. Thanks for the replies folks !

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                    08-22-2014, 09:32 PM
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                    That's the answer I would expect from a college girl. Not that I would know since I never went to college except to plumb there.

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                  Josh you are starting to sound like a politician here. C'mon, we are all mates down here. Tell you what, let us in on the secret and we promise not to tell Plumber Rick............heheheeheeeeheee.....!!!!

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